HOBBYWING 8108-85KV Brushless Power System User Manual

July 25, 2024
HOBBYWING

HOBBYWING 8108-85KV Brushless Power System

Product Information

Specifications

  • Recommended uniaxial load: 2.5-3.5kg
  • Lithium compatible: 12-14S (Max 63V)
  • Applicable carbon tube: 30mm (diameter)
  • Protection level: IP45
  • Max. Torque: 7.5kg
  • Ambient temperature: -20°C to 50°C
  • Total weight (excluding propellers): H
  • Support throttle frequency: 50-500Hz

Product Usage Instructions

  1. Introduction
    This product is designed for [product purpose]. It includes various components like a motor, ESC, propeller, and fastening screws for assembly.

  2. Precautions
    Before using the product, ensure to carefully read the user manual and follow the installation instructions to prevent personal injury or product damage.

  3. Power System Composition
    The power system includes components like motor, ESC, propeller, and mounting accessories. Follow the manual for correct assembly.

  4. Power System Installation
    Install the power system components including LED lights, motor, ESC, and propeller following the provided instructions. Ensure proper alignment and secure fastening.

  5. Power System Parameters
    The motor model is 8108 with specific parameters like KV rating and outer diameter. The propeller dimensions and weight are also specified for optimal performance.

  6. ESC Protection Function
    The ESC features protection functions to ensure safe operation. Follow the guidelines to set up and configure the ESC for your specific needs.

  7. ID Setting
    If customization is required, you can set the ESC ID using additional tools. Ensure proper software installations on your computer before proceeding with any changes.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

  • Q: Can I use a different propeller size than the one provided?
    A: It is recommended to use the specified propeller size for optimal performance and safety. Using a different size may affect the product’s functionality.

  • Q: How do I know if the power system is correctly installed?
    A: Ensure all components are securely fastened according to the manual. Test the system in a safe environment to verify proper functioning before regular use.

Thank you for purchasing this product! Please read the following statement carefully before use and, once used, it is considered to be an acceptance of all the contents. Please strictly observe and adhere to the manual installation with this product. Unauthorized modification may result in personal injury and product damage. We reserve the right to update the design and performance of the product without notice.

Introduction

The CM-H8M-8108-85KV brushless power system is an industrial version power system that adopts a single-axis load of 2.5-3.5kg. 12 The blinking of the light The maximum pulling force of a single axis is 7.4kg and is suitable for a 30mm carbon fiber tube arm with an overall waterproof level protection rated at IP45. The efficient heat dissipation provides a one-stop power solution for small professional aerial photography, police, security, surveying and mapping, emergency, and other multi-field rotor drone applications. FOC ESC adopts CAN communication, dual redundant design of digital throttle and PWM throttle, with power-on self-test, fault storage, over-current protection, stall protection, and other protection functions.

Precautions

  • Please stay away from crowds, high-voltage lines, obstacles, etc. when using, and be sure to follow safety regulations when using.

  • The power system contains an FOC drive ESC, which needs to strictly match the motor parameters. The program is unique. It is only suitable for one combination of propellers and is not compatible with
    multiple combinations at the same time. If you need to change it, please contact the manufacturer. Unreasonable combinations will trigger ESC protection and make it unusable.

  • The ESC is equipped with a CAN function. When using the CAN function, the ESC ID and the throttle channel of the same aircraft cannot be the same, otherwise, the multiple ESCs will be recognized
    as the same.

  • Do not bring Propellers for ground testing to avoid unnecessary danger.

  • Be sure to connect all parts carefully. If the connection is poor, you may not be able to control the aircraft normally, or other unpredictable situations such as equipment damage may occur.

  • If you need to weld the input and output wire plugs of the ESC, please ensure that the welding is reliable and use welding equipment with sufficient power.

  • Do not use it when the external ambient temperature exceeds 50°C. The high temperature will destroy the ESC and may cause damage to the motor and cause the machine to explode.

  • The steering of the power system has been set at the factory. Please observe the motor steering mark. It is not supported to change the sequence of the motor phase wires due to the packaging and sealing process.

Power system composition

  • Motor x 1pcs
  • ESC x 1pcs
  • Propeller x 1pcs
  • Motor mount x 1pcs
  • Fastening screw x 4pcs
  • LED light set x 1pcs

Power system installation

  • The entire power system has been assembled at the factory and can be taken out directly from the package to install on the UAV frame according to the rotation of the motor.
  • The yellow, gray and green three-color cable is the data output and upgrade signal line (the system can be upgraded for the ESC), the yellow line is the ground line; the gray line is CAN-High (hereinafter referred to as CH); the green line is CAN-Low (hereinafter referred to as CL). The black and white cables are the ESC throttle signal wires, the black wire is the ground wire, and the white wire is the throttle signal wire.
  • The data signal line outputs throttle, motor speed, bus current, bus voltage, capacitor temperature, MOS tube temperature, and other data in real-time.
  • The ESC accelerator is solidified at 1100~1940μs.

Specifications

  • Recommended uniaxial load: 2.5-3.5kg
  • Lithium compatible: 12-14S (Max 63V)
  • Applicable carbon tube: 30mm (diameter)
  • Protection level: IP45
  • Max.Torque: 7.5kg
  • Ambient temperature: -20-50℃
  • Total weight (excluding propellers): 495g
  • Support throttle frequency: 50-500Hz

ESC

  • Continuous current: 20A (Non-airtight ambient temperature ≤60℃)
  • Instantaneous current: 60A (3 seconds – good heat dissipation ≤60℃)
  • Lithium compatible: 6-14S LiPo
  • Throttle solidified: 1100-1940μs

Motor

  • Model: 8108
  • KV rating: 85KV
  • Outer diameter: Φ87 x 34.7mm

Propeller

  • Dimension: 30 x 9.8 inch
  • Weight (straight Propeller): 71g

Power system parameters

Voltage (V)| Propeller| Throttle (%)| Thrust (g)| Ampere (A)| Power (W)| Speed (RPM)| Efficiency (g/W)| Temperature (℃)
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---
| | 30%| 975| 1.2| 57.1| 1165| 17.1|
| | 33%| 1180| 1.5| 70.6| 1275| 16.7|
| | 36%| 1470| 2.0| 94.1| 1420| 15.7|
| | 39%| 1715| 2.4| 116.2| 1534| 14.7|
| | 42%| 1945| 2.9| 139.3| 1634| 14.0|
| | 45%| 2315| 3.7| 179.1| 1783| 12.9|
| | 48%| 2595| 4.4| 211.3| 1887| 12.3|
| | 51%| 2995| 5.4| 260.3| 2026| 11.5|
| | 54%| 3265| 6.1| 294.8| 2114| 11.1|
| | 57%| 3510| 6.8| 327.5| 2190| 10.7|
48V (12S LIPO)| 30×9.8

Inch

| 60%

63%

| 3865

4275

| 7.9

9.1

| 377.0

437.9

| 2295

2410

| 10.2

9.8

|

55.0

| Propeller| 66%| 4505| 9.9| 473.5| 2472| 9.5|
| | 69%| 4865| 11.1| 533.0| 2565| 9.1|
| | 72%| 5270| 12.6| 603.6| 2666| 8.7|
| | 75%| 5470| 13.3| 640.6| 2715| 8.5|
| | 78%| 5895| 15.1| 722.7| 2814| 8.2|
| | 81%| 6195| 16.3| 783.7| 2882| 7.9|
| | 84%| 6405| 17.2| 826.9| 2929| 7.7|
| | 87%| 6685| 18.5| 886.0| 2990| 7.5|
| | 90%| 7025| 20.0| 958.5| 3063| 7.3|
| | 100%| 7520| 22.1| 1060.3| 3166| 7.1|

  • The above data are measured by Hobbywing Lab at the ambient temperature of 25℃ and sea level by changing the throttle input adjustment.
  • The motor temperature is measured by running the throttle at the rated point for 10 minutes, for reference only.

ESC protection function

This ESC is specially designed for industrial drones, without low-voltage protection and over-heat protection.

  • Stall protection
    When the ESC detects that the motor is locked, the ESC will completely turn off the output and repeatedly try to restart the motor. Please land the aircraft as soon as possible if the motor is unable to be restarted. The power output can only be resumed after the power is turned off and restarted, and the fault is eliminated.

  • Current protection
    When the instantaneous phase current abnormality reaches 100A, the ESC will turn off the output and keep trying to restart the motor. If the motor does not restart, it will return to normal after power on again.

  • Over-heat warning
    A fault message will be sent out through the data interface when the MOS or capacitor temperature is higher than 100°C. Please land the aircraft in time or reduce the throttle output when the ESC reports an over-heat fault, if the temperature continues to rise, electronic components may be damaged.

  • Low voltage protection
    This ESC has no low-voltage protection. Some electronic components of the ESC will work abnormally when the voltage falls below 24Vxs. Please land the aircraft in time.

  • Throttle signal loss protection
    When the ESC detects that the throttle signal is lost, the output will be turned off immediately to avoid greater losses caused by the continued high- speed rotation of the propeller. After the signal is restored, the ESC will resume normal operation immediately.

ID setting

  • If there is no requirement, the default factory ID of the ESC is 1, the throttle channel is 1, and the bus speed is 500KHz.
  • This function requires the additional purchase of a DataLink data box.
  • Before using this function, ensure that the computer system has installed Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 software in advance, otherwise, it cannot operate normally.
  1. Connection
    • ESC—->DataLink data box “yellow gray green”—->”—CH1 CL1″;
    • Connect the data box to the computer via USB.
    • When changing the ID, please remove the Propeller to avoid danger.
    • For the same aircraft, different ESC IDs and throttles cannot be the same to avoid the same ID recognizing as one ESC when using the CAN function.
  2. Operating diagram

Fault data read

The ESC has its fault storage function to store the times upon powering on, flight time, and fault times information. It is convenient for flight fault analysis. This function needs to use a DataLink data box, serial port assistant, and DataLink host computer software.

Note:
DataLink software can be obtained from Hobbywing’s official website, dealers, Hobbywing sales, and Hobbywing after-sales.

  • DataLink data box firmware version requirements: LINK-01.2.15-C or later; serial port assistant requirements: USB to TTL protocol; DataLink host computer software requirements: fault storage version. It can be obtained on the official website, WeChat official account, or after-sales service.

The DataLink box has three power supply methods (+5V), USB data cable, serial port assistant, and external power supply cable. You can choose one of the power supply methods, and you don’t need to repeat the power supply.

Note:
For detailed steps, please refer to the DataLink user manual.

  1. Connection
    • Serial port assistant —-> DataLink data box “GND 5V TX RX” —-> “— + RX2 TX2” (please click here for the corresponding line sequence);
    • ESC—->DataLink data box “yellow gray green”—->”— CH2 CL2″, multiple ESCs can be used in parallel.
  2. Software operation

Firmware upgrade

Firmware upgrade is divided into two ways: computer online upgrade and flight controller remote upgrade. It supports the online upgrade of multiple ESCs at the same time, and the upgrade port is CAN-ESC (Fast).

  • The upgrade of the flight control needs to cooperate with the flight control(not explained here).
  • This function needs to use a DataLink data box, special DataLink software for the upgrade package, and a USB data cable.
  • DataLink data box version requirements, LINK-01.2.15-C or later; DataLink software can be obtained from Hobbywing’s official website, distributors, Hobbywing sales, and Hobbywing after-sales.
  • Note: Please ensure that the computer system has installed Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 software before using this function, otherwise it cannot be used. An upgrade package usually only contains one program for one type of ESC. For other ESCs, please re-obtain the upgrade package for the corresponding ESC model.
  1. Connection
    • Connect the computer and the DataLink data box with the USB data cable;
    • ESC—->DataLink data box “yellow gray green”—->”— CH1 CL1″.
  2. Firmware acquisition
    • It can be obtained at the place of purchase, Hobbywing official website, dealers, Hobbywing sales, and Hobbywing after-sales offices.
    • Note: It can only be upgraded from the existing program, and software and hardware cannot be upgraded together.
  3. Operating diagram

Common Faults and Prompt Sound Description

Warning tone description

Symptoms

| Alarm tone| Possible causes|

Solutions

---|---|---|---
The motor fails to start after power on| “Beep beep beep…” rapid monophonic| The throttle is not reset to zero| Push the throttle to the lowest point or recalibrate the throttle point
The motor fails to start after power on| “Beep, beep, beep,…” (1 second for each interval)| The receiver throttle channel has no throttle signal output| 1. Check whether the transmitter and receiver operate normally

2. Check whether the throttle control channel wiring is normal

The power-on voltage is lower than 24V| “Beep, beep” (interval 1 second)| Battery voltage is too low| Replace with a suitable fully charged battery
The power-on voltage is higher than 63V| “Beep, beep” (interval 1 second)| Battery voltage too high| Replace with a suitable fully charged battery
The motor stops or restarts| | The motor is not compatible with the ESC| Replace the motor, or replace the propeller
There is no sound during the self-test of the motor, but the motor can rotate| There is no prompt sound during the self-test, and the motor rotates| Driver exception| 1. Replace ESC

2. Return to factory for repair

The motor cannot start normally, accompanied by “click”click” jitter|

There is no prompt sound during the

self-test, and the motor is unable to rotate

| Motor phase loss| 1. Check phase connection

2. Check motor

3. If there is no problem with the motor and connection, return the ESC to the factory for repair

The blinking of the light

Condition| normal| Full of throttle| Overvoltage| Low voltage| Over Current| Throttle lost| The input throttle signal is not at the 0% position| MOS overheat| Capacitor overheat| Motor block
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---
The number of blinking light| The light is always on| Continuous short blinking| 1 short| 2 short| 3 short| 1 long| 1 long and

1 short

| 1 long and

2 short

| 1 long and

3 short

| 1 long and

4 short

Others

Condition| The input throttle signal is not at the 0% position| Shorted circuit of the signal line| Open circuit of the motor
Soun & blinking| Continue short loud beep & LED continuously short blinking| Continuous short with blinking & LED off with LED off| Continue short blinking without beep

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