Ideal HEATING C24IE Series Logic Max Combi C User Guide
- August 18, 2024
- ideal HEATING
Table of Contents
- Ideal HEATING C24IE Series Logic Max Combi C
- Product Usage Instructions
- BOILER OPERATION
- TO START THE BOILER
- OPERATION MODES
- SYSTEM WATER PRESSURE
- CONDENSATE DRAIN
- GENERAL INFORMATION
- POINTS FOR THE BOILER USER
- NORMAL OPERATION DISPLAY CODES
- FAULT CODES
- References
- Read User Manual Online (PDF format)
- Download This Manual (PDF format)
Ideal HEATING C24IE Series Logic Max Combi C
Logic Max Combi C IE
Specifications:
- Combination boiler providing central heating and instantaneous domestic hot water
- Full sequence automatic ignition
- Fan assisted combustion
- Produces condensate from flue gases
- Requires a plastic waste pipe for drainage
- Visible condensate ‘plume’ at the flue terminal
Product Usage Instructions
Safety:
It is essential that the boiler is installed by a Gas Safe Registered
Engineer in accordance with current Gas Safety Regulations. In IE,
installation must be done by a Registered Gas Installer following I.S. 813
Domestic Gas Installations and Building Regulations.
Electricity Supply:
The appliance must be earthed and supplied with 230V ~ 50Hz electricity
with a 3A fuse. Ensure proper sealing of all electrical connections.
System Water Pressure:
Check and maintain the system water pressure to ensure optimal performance
of the boiler.
Condensate Drain:
Make sure the condensate is drained properly through a plastic waste pipe
at the base of the boiler. Monitor the visibility of the condensate ‘plume’ at
the flue terminal.
General Information:
Follow the instructions in the user manual for safe and efficient operation
of the boiler. Regular servicing is recommended to ensure safety and
efficiency.
FAQ:
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Q: Can I use reconditioned parts for maintenance?
A: It is recommended to use only spare parts authorized by Ideal Heating to ensure safety and performance standards are met. -
Q: How can I verify the credentials of the installer?
A: Gas Safe Register installers carry an ID card with a registration number. Verify your installer by contacting Gas Safe Register directly.
When replacing any part on this appliance, use only spare parts that you can
be assured conform to the safety and performance specification that we
require. Do not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly
authorised by Ideal Heating.
For the very latest copy of literature for specification and maintenance
practices visit our website idealheating.com where
you can download the relevant information in PDF format.
INTRODUCTION
The Logic Max Combi C IE range is a combination boiler providing both central
heating and instantaneous domestic hot water. Featuring full sequence
automatic ignition and fan assisted combustion.
Due to the high efficiency of the boiler, condensate is produced from the flue
gases and this is drained to a suitable disposal point through a plastic waste
pipe at the base of the boiler. A condensate ‘plume’ will also be visible at
the flue terminal.
SAFETY
Current Gas Safety (Installation & Use) Regulations or rules in force.
In your own interest, and that of safety, it is the law that this boiler must
be installed by a Gas Safe Registered Engineer, in accordance with the above
regulations.
In IE, the installation must be carried out by a Registered Gas Installer
(RGII) and installed in accordance with the current edition of I.S. 813
“Domestic Gas Installations”, the current Building Regulations and reference
should be made to the current ETCI rules for electrical installation.
It is essential that the instructions in this booklet are strictly followed,
for safe and economical operation of the boiler.
ELECTRICITY SUPPLY
This appliance must be earthed.
Supply: 230 V ~ 50 Hz. The fusing should be 3A.
IMPORTANT NOTES
- This appliance must not be operated without the casing correctly fitted and forming an adequate seal.
- If the boiler is installed in a compartment then the compartment MUST NOT be used for storage purposes.
- If it is known or suspected that a fault exists on the boiler then it MUST NOT BE USED until the fault has been corrected by a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
- Under NO circumstances should any of the sealed components on this appliance be used incorrectly or tampered with.
- This appliance can be used by children 8 years and above. Also persons with reduced physical, sensory or mental capabilities, or lack of experience and knowledge, provided they have been given supervision or instruction concerning use of the appliance in a safe way and understand the hazards involved. Children shall not play with the appliance. Cleaning and user maintenance shall not be made by children without supervision.
All Gas Safe Register installers carry a Gas Safe Register ID card, and have a
registration number. Both should be recorded in the Benchmark Commissioning
Checklist. You can check your installer by calling Gas Safe Register direct on
0800 4085500.
Ideal Heating is a member of the Benchmark scheme and fully supports the aims
of the programme. Benchmark has been introduced to improve the standards of
installation and commissioning of central heating systems in the UK and to
encourage the regular servicing of all central heating systems to ensure
safety and efficiency.
THE BENCHMARK SERVICE INTERVAL RECORD MUST BE COMPLETED AFTER EACH SERVICE
BOILER OPERATION
Legend
- A. Domestic Hot Water Temperature Knob
- B. Central Heating Temperature Knob
- C. Mode Knob
- D. Boiler Status Display
- E. Burner ‘on’ Indicator
- F. Preheat On Off button
- G. Restart button
- H. Central Heating Economy Setting
- J. Pressure Gauge
TO START THE BOILER
If a programmer is fitted refer to separate instructions for the programmer before continuing.
Start the boiler as follows:
- Check that the electricity supply to boiler is off.
- Set the mode knob (C) to ‘BOILER OFF’.
- Set the Domestic Hot Water temperature knob (A) and Central Heating temperature knob (B) to ‘MAX’.
- Ensure that all hot water taps are turned off.
- Switch on electricity to the boiler and check that all external controls, e.g. programmer and room thermostat, are on.
- Set the mode knob (C) to ‘ ’ (winter).
The boiler will commence ignition sequence, supplying heat to the central
heating, if required.
Note. In normal operation the boiler status display (D) will show codes:
Standby – no demand for heat.
Central Heating being supplied
Domestic hot water being supplied
Domestic hot water preheat
Boiler frost protection
– boiler will fire if temperature is below 5ºC.
During normal operation the burner on indicator ‘ ’ will remain illuminated
when the burner is lit.
Note: If the boiler fails to light after five attempts the fault code L2
will be displayed (refer to Fault Code page).
OPERATION MODES
Winter Conditions – (Central Heating and Domestic Hot Water required)
Set the mode knob (C) ‘ ’ (winter).
The boiler will fire and supply heat to the radiators but will give priority
to domestic hot water on demand.
The domestic hot water preheat will operate with the ‘PREHEAT’ button pressed
so that the display shows “HOT WATER PREHEAT ON”.
Summer Conditions – (Domestic Hot Water only required)
Set the mode knob (C) to ‘ ’ (summer).
Set the central heating demand on the external controls to OFF.
The domestic hot water preheat will operate with the ‘PREHEAT’ button pressed
so that the display shows “HOT WATER PREHEAT ON”.
Boiler Off
Set the mode knob (C) to ‘BOILER OFF’. The boiler mains power supply must be
left on to enable frost protection (see Frost Protection).
PREHEAT – DOMESTIC HOT WATER
The domestic hot water heat exchanger within the boiler can be kept preheated
to provide faster delivery of hot water at the tap. This is achieved by
pressing the ‘PREHEAT’ button (F) so that ‘HOT WATER PREHEAT ON’ is shown on
the display.
The boiler will operate periodically for a few seconds to maintain the
domestic hot water heat exchanger in a preheated condition. The avera ge time
period between operation is 90 minutes. This may vary considerably due to the
surrounding ambient temperature of the boiler. The boiler will operate
whenever there is a demand for domestic hot water.
If standard hot water delivery is satisfactory press the ‘PREHEAT’ button (F)
so that ‘HOT WATER PREHEAT OFF’ is shown on the display.
CONTROL OF WATER TEMPERATURE
Domestic Hot Water
The domestic hot water temperature is limited by the boiler controls to a
maximum temperature of 65ºC, adjustable via the domestic hot water temperature
knob (A).
Approximate temperatures for domestic hot water:
Knob Setting | Hot Water Temperature (approx.) |
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Minimum | 40ºC |
Maximum | 65ºC |
Due to system variations and seasonal temperature fluctuations domestic hot water flow rates/temperature rise will vary, requiring adjustment at the tap : the lower the flow rate the higher the temperature, and vice versa.
Central Heating
The boiler controls the central heating radiator temperature to a maximum of
80oC, adjustable via the central heating temperature knob (B).
Approximate temperatures for central heating:
Knob Setting | Central Heating Radiator Temperature (approx.) |
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Minimum | 30ºC |
Maximum | 80ºC |
For economy setting ‘ e ’ refer to Efficient Heating System Operation.
EFFICIENT HEATING SYSTEM OPERATION
The boiler is a high efficiency, condensing appliance which will automatically
adjust its output to match the demand for heat. Therefore gas consumption is
reduced as the heat demand is reduced.
The boiler condenses water from the flue gases when operating most
efficiently. To operate your boiler efficiently (using less gas) turn the
central heating temperature knob (B) to the ‘ e ’ position or lower. In
winter periods it may be necessary to turn the knob towards the ‘MAX’
position to meet heating requirements. This will depend on the house and
radiators used.
Reducing the room thermostat setting by 1ºC can reduce gas consumption by up
to 10%.
WEATHER COMPENSATION
When the Weather Compensation option is fitted to the system then the central
heating temperature knob (B) becomes a method of controlling room temperature.
Turn the knob clockwise to increase room temperature and anti-clockwise to
decrease room temperature. Once the desired setting has been achieved, leave
the knob in this position and the system will automatically achieve the
desired room temperature for all outside weather conditions.
BOILER FROST PROTECTION
The boiler is fitted with frost protection that operates in all modes,
provided the power supply to the boiler is always turned on. If the water in
the boiler falls below 5ºC, the frost protection will activate and run the
boiler to avoid freezing. The process does not guarantee that all other parts
of the system will be protected.
If a system frost thermostat has been installed, the boiler must be set in
winter mode, ‘ ’, for the system frost protection to run.
If no system frost protection is provided and frost is likely during a short
absence from home it is recommended to leave the system heating controls or
built in programmer (if fitted) switched on and run at a reduced temperature
setting. For longer periods, the entire system should be drained.
BOILER RESTART
To restart the boiler, when directed in the listed fault codes (see section 8)
press the restart button (G). The boiler will repeat its ignition sequence. If
the boiler still fails to start consult a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or an
IE Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
MAINS POWER OFF
To remove all power to the boiler the mains power switch must be turned off.
SYSTEM WATER PRESSURE
The system pressure gauge indicates the central heating system pressure. If the pressure is seen to fall below the original installation pressure of 1-2 bar over a period of time and continue to fall then a water leak may be indicated. In this event re-pressurise the system as shown below. If unable to do so or if the pressure continues to drop a Gas Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer (RGII) should be consulted.
THE BOILER WILL NOT OPERATE IF THE PRESSURE HAS REDUCED TO LESS THAN 0.3 BAR UNDER THIS CONDITION.
To Top up the system :-
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Ensure both A & B handles (blue) are in closed position (as shown below)
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Remove the plug and cap and retain.
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Connect the filling loop to the Domestic Hot Water (DHW) inlet and tighten. Also ensure that the other end of filling loop is hand tight.
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Turn the Domestic Hot Water (DHW) Inlet A blue handle to the horizontal position.
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Ensuring no leaks are seen, gradually turn the filling loop handle (blue) B to the horizontal position.
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Wait for the pressure gauge to reach 1 to 1.5 bar.
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Once pressure is reached turn valves A & B back to the closed position.
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Disconnect the filling loop, replace cap and plug. Note there can be some water spillage at this point.
CONDENSATE DRAIN
This appliance is fitted with a siphonic condensate trap system that reduces the risk of the appliance condensate from freezing. However should the condensate pipe to this appliance freeze, please follow these instructions:
- If you do not feel competent to carry out the defrosting instructions below please call your local Gas Safe Registered installer for assistance.
- If you do feel competent to carry out the following instructions please do so with care when handling hot utensils. Do not attempt to thaw pipework above ground level.
If this appliance develops a blockage in its condensate pipe, its condensate will build up to a point where it will make a gurgling noise prior to locking out an “L 2” fault code. If the appliance is restarted it will make a gurgling noise prior to it locking out on a failed ignition “L 2” code.
To unblock a frozen condensate pipe;
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Follow the routing of the plastic pipe from its exit point on the appliance, through its route to its termination point.
Locate the frozen blockage. It is likely that the pipe is frozen at the most exposed point external to the building or where there is some obstruction to flow. This could be at the open end of the pipe, at a bend or elbow, or where there is a dip in the pipe in which condensate can collect. The location of the blockage should be identified as closely as possible before taking further action. -
Apply a hot water bottle, microwaveable heat pack or a warm damp cloth to the frozen blockage area. Several applications may have to be made before it fully defrosts. Warm water can also be poured onto the pipe from a watering can or similar. DO NOT use boiling water.
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Caution when using warm water as this may freeze and cause other localised hazards.
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Once the blockage is removed and the condensate can flow freely, restart the appliance. (Refer to “To Start the boiler”)
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If the appliance fails to ignite, call your Gas Safe Registered engineer.
Preventative solutions
During cold weather, set the central heating temperature knob (B) to maximum
(must return to original setting once cold spell is over).
Place the heating on continuous and turn the room thermostat down to 15ºC
overnight or when unoccupied. (Return to normal after cold spell).
GENERAL INFORMATION
BOILER PUMP
The boiler pump will operate briefly as a self-check once every 24 hours,
regardless of system demand.
MINIMUM CLEARANCES
Clearance of 165mm above, 100mm below, 2.5mm at the sides and 450mm at the
front of the boiler casing must be allowed for servicing.
Bottom Clearance
Bottom clearance after installation can be reduced to 5mm.
This must be obtained with an easily removable panel, to enable the system
pressure gauge to be visible and to provide the 100mm clearance required for
servicing.
EXPANSION
NOTE. If a water meter is fitted into the incoming water mains there may
be a requirement for a domestic hot water expansion vessel Kit. Contact a Gas
Safe Registered Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
ESCAPE OF GAS
Should a gas leak or fault be suspected contact the National Gas Emergency
Service without delay. Telephone 1850 20 50 50.
Ensure that;
- All naked flames are extinguished
- Do not operate electrical switches
- Open all windows and doors
CLEANING
For normal cleaning simply dust with a dry cloth. To remove stubborn marks and
stains, wipe with a damp cloth and finish off with a dry cloth. DO NOT use
abrasive cleaning materials.
MAINTENANCE
The appliance should be serviced at least once a year by a Gas Safe Registered
Engineer or in IE a Registered Gas Installer (RGII).
POINTS FOR THE BOILER USER
Note. In line with our current warranty policy we would ask that you check through the following guide to identify any problems external to the boiler prior to requesting a service engineer’s visit. Should the problem be found to be other than with the appliance we reserve the right to levy a charge for the visit, or for any pre-arranged visit where access is not gained by the engineer.
TROUBLESHOOTING
NORMAL OPERATION DISPLAY CODES
FOR ANY QUERIES PLEASE RING THE IDEAL CONSUMER HELPLINE : 00353 (0)1 961
7700
NOTE. BOILER RESTART PROCEDURE –
To restart the boiler press the RESTART button. The boiler will repeat the
ignition sequence if a heat demand is present.
FAULT CODES
References
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