GRIN V3 Front All Axle Motor Owner’s Manual
- June 1, 2024
- GRIN
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GRIN V3 Front All Axle Motor
Product Information
Specifications
- Manufacturer: Grin Technologies Ltd
- Model: Front V3 All-Axle Motor
- Weight: 4.05 kg
- Peak Torque: Over 80 Nm
- Continuous Torque: 30-40 Nm
- Controller Connector: Waterproof L1019
- Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Product Usage Instructions
Introduction
Thank you for choosing the Grin Technologies Front All-Axle hub motor. This
direct-drive motor is designed to provide efficient and reliable performance
on various bicycle platforms.
Components
The motor package includes:
- Axle End Caps
- Axle Extenders
- Disc Spacers
- Torque Arm
- Frame Clamp
Installation
Before mounting the motor, follow these steps:
- Axle Extender (Fatbike adapters only): Fit the axle extender over the non-disc side of the axle.
- Torque Arm: Orient the torque arm on the axle with the cable pointing down when the arm is pointing up.
FAQ
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Q: Do I need to use the included disc spacers?
A: The disc spacers should only be used if necessary, such as when the caliper is too wide to fit between the gap without scraping against the side plate. -
Q: How do I attach the torque arm to the fork?
A: Use the swivelling frame clamp as a versatile attachment point for the torque arm, connecting it with the fork blade via hose clamps.
Introduction
Thank you for purchasing the universal V3 Front All-Axle hub motor from Grin
Technologies. This efficient and robust direct drive hub motor can provide
years of ebike joy on almost any bicycle platform.
Features of the Front All-Axle motor include:
- Lightweight for its power class (4.05 kg vs typical 5.5-6 kg).
- Compatible with almost all thru-axle and quick-release dropouts.
- Integrated torque arm for secure installation.
- Waterproof L1019 controller connector for hall and phase leads.
- Embedded thermistor for motor temperature sensing.
- Capable of over 80 Nm peak torque, and 30-40 Nm continuous.
- Made in Vancouver, Canada.
Components
In addition to the hub motor itself, the motor package may include additional hardware such as disc spacers, axle end caps, axle extenders, and of course, a torque arm. These are identified below:
Axle End Caps
The axle end caps fit inside the ends of the axle to provide the correct
spacing and termination for either quick release or thru-axle spindles.
Axle Extenders
The 135×9 and 150×15 fatbike adapter kits also include a 20 mm axle extender
which increases the effective axle length on the left disc side of the hub.
Disc Spacers
We include an optional 1.5 mm disc spacer and end-cap spacer in case the
particular caliper is too wide to fit between the gap and scrapes against the
side plate. See section 8.2. These spacers should only be used if needed.
Torque Arm
The torque arm is a pivotal part of the motor system that transmits all of
the motor torque safely to the bicycle fork without putting any spreading
force on the dropouts. It uses a snug splined interface that can withstand
tremendous spinning force from the axle, with virtually no play when the
torque direction alternates during regenerative braking.
Frame Clamp
The swiveling frame clamp provides a versatile attachment point for the
torque arm to connect with the fork blade via a pair of hose clamps. Once the
frame clamp is installed, it can stay in place allowing the torque arm to
detach with just a single fastener.
Installation
Before mounting the motor to the bicycle fork you may first need to install various hardware adapters onto the hub.
Axle Extender (Fatbike adapters only)
Fit the axle extender (if provided) over the non-disc side of the axle. It is
a tight fit and may need to be tapped on.
Torque Arm
Orient the torque arm on the axle such that the cable points down when the
arm is pointing up.
Secure the torque arm to the motor axle with the six supplied M3x10mm screws. These screws do not transmit torque, rather they simply hold the torque arm in position. In the fatbike adapter kits, the axle extender is held tight with six M3x35mm screws, while six M3x40 screws hold the torque arm in place.
Disc and Disc Spacer
If the bike uses disc brakes, install the disc rotor to the disc side plate
using the six M6x10 torx screws. With the fatbike adapter kits for 135mm and
150mm forks, the disc attaches to a disc spacer first.
The disc rotor screws should be fastened to 7 Nm of torque using a T25 torx driver.
Axle End Caps
Insert the left and right side end caps into the axle. These pieces are held
snug with a small O-ring to provide sufficient friction that they stay in
place when the wheel is removed from the bike.
Wheel Insertion
The completed hub motor can now be dropped into the bicycle fork just like any
other front bicycle wheel. This is easiest with the bike upside down.
Carefully place it into the fork, aligning the disc rotor between the brake
calipers, then loosely secure the quick release or thru-axle spindle.
Attaching the Frame Clamp
The frame clamp attaches to the fork blade with two hose clamps. A piece of
rubber sleeve is included which can be cut to length and slipped over the hose
clamp band to make this hardware more discreet.
Align the frame clamp with the torque arm and tighten up both the M5 nut and
the hose clamp bands using the included socket wrench. Tighten the M5 bolt
linking the torque arm to the frame clamp with a 5 mm Allen Key. With the
torque arm now oriented, you can fully tighten the thru-axle or quick release.
When removing the wheel in the future, simply loosen the single M5 bolt
linking the torque arm to the frame clamp and the torque arm will slide out.
Controller Hookup
- If you have a Phaserunner or Baserunner controller from Grin terminated with an L1019 plug, these parts simply plug together on the fork blade.
- The details of configuring your motor controller and/or Cycle Analyst are covered in their respective manuals.
- If you are using a third party motor controller, then it is up to you to either terminate your controller with a matching plug or cut off the L1019 plug and solder on connectors that match your controller.
- Grin does not provide installation support for third party controller integration. All pertinent information required for doing this is in this document.
Power and Speed
The Front All-Axle motor is available in 3 different winding speeds to achieve
the required performance over a range of battery voltages, wheel diameters and
target cruising speeds.
Table 1: The three winding speed options. Note that most ebike hub motors
spin at 7-8 rpm/V, so the “Slow Winding” is not actually that slow.
Motor SKU | Name | Turns | Kv |
---|---|---|---|
M-AA2705R | Fast Winding | 5T | 12 rpm/V |
M-AA2706R | Standard Winding | 6T | 10 rpm/V |
M-AA2708R | Slow Winding | 8T | 7.5 rpm/V |
No-Load Speed Table
The unloaded speed for each winding at different wheel diameters is summarized
in Table 2. This is the no-load speed it will spin at with the wheel off the
ground; actual cruising speeds will typically be 10-30% less than this
depending on the vehicle loading. Please use Grin’s online motor simulator
tool to
better understand the effect of vehicle type, hill grade, and rider weight on
the fully loaded speed.
Table 2: This is how fast a given system will spin at full throttle with
the wheel lifted off the ground and facing no resistance. The actual speed
under any kind of load will always be less than this and is fully detailed on
our Motor Simulator web app.
Battery Voltage| Slow (8T) Wind| Standard (6T) Wind| Fast
(5T) Wind
---|---|---|---
20”| 26”| 20”| 26”| 20”| 26”
36V| 26 kph| 34 kph| 34 kph| 45 kph| 41 kph| 54 kph
48V| 34 kph| 45 kph| 46 kph| 60 kph| 55 kph| 72 kph
52V| 37 kph| 49 kph| 50 kph| 65 kph| 60 kph| 78 kph
In general the faster windings are used in smaller wheel diameters or lower voltage batteries, while the slower windings are better suited to larger rims or higher voltage packs. But there is nothing stopping you from doing fast motors in big wheels or slow motor winds in small wheels if that provides the performance you want.
Winding Speed vs Torque
Note that a faster motor winding does not mean a lower torque motor. That is a
very common misconception. All 3 motor windings are capable of producing the
same torque and power, but a faster wind motor needs more phase amperage to
reach that torque. It is only when your motor controller is limiting the phase
current that you will see more torque from the slower motor wind.
Short Term and Continuous Power
The power output capability of an electric motor depends on both how fast the
motor is spinning and how long it needs to run for. Table 3 summarizes the
output power the All-Axle hub can sustain both continuously and over a 5
minute period when the maximum allowable core temperature is defined (somewhat
arbitrarily) at 110°C. This table assumes a 20°C ambient air temperature and
that the motor has a passing airflow consistent with being in a 26” diameter
wheel.
Table 3: The motor power capability depends heavily on the motor speed.
That’s why it is better to characterize motors by their torque capability than
their power output.
Wheel Speed | Continuous Power | 5 Minute Power |
---|---|---|
Dry | w/Statorade | Dry |
100 rpm | 250 W | 340 W |
200 rpm | 560 W | 785 W |
300 rpm | 900 W | 1275 W |
400 rpm | 1250 W | 1840 W |
As long as the control system is setup to measure the motor temperature and
rollback power when it gets too hot, there is little harm in pushing high
watts through the motor.
Be aware that the L1019 connector can also become a bottleneck, especially
with fast motor windings. While it can handle 80-90 A for short times, the
plug risks melting if it is used for long periods above 55 amps.
Official Rated Power
As both the designer and manufacturer of this motor, Grin has full discretion
over its official power rating. For the EU and Eurasia, we define the rated
motor power as the maximum continuous output before thermal rollback in a
worst case scenario of a slow 100 rpm hill climb. As per Table 3, this is 250
watts.
For Canada, we define the rated motor power as the maximum continuous output
in a more modest hill climb at just under 200 rpm wheel speed. As per Table 3,
that is 500 watts.
For the USA, we define the rated motor power as the general continuous power
capability at 20 mph cycling speeds (~250 rpm), which is 750 watts.
Statorade Injection
As shown in Table 3, motor performance at high loads is increased
significantly by the addition of 8 mL of Statorade ferrofluid which helps
conduct heat from the stator core to the motor ring. If you routinely see core
temperature exceeding
100°C, we highly recommend adding 8 mL of Statorade to extend the usable power
window before thermal rollback.
Statorade is injected into the motor from a small M3 screw hole located on the right side plate. Add Statorade with a syringe tip with the hole on the bottom so that the fluid flows directly downwards and into the rotor magnets and avoids flowing over the motor bearings and torque sensor. Remember to put the screw back in to seal the hole.
Service and Maintenance
Direct drive hub motors can be run for many years with no need for any
scheduled maintenance. Frequent exposure to salty conditions can cause
corrosion / pitting of aluminum metal over time, but this does not affect your
motor’s performance.
If the motor does need to be opened up for service (e.g. ball bearing
replacement, torn cable repair), the motor must to be unlaced from the rim
first. A gear puller is handy but not required. See Grin’s disassembly video
for further details.
Additional Points
Wheel Lacing
The All-Axle motor uses 32 paired spoke holes, which results in the spokes
having a tangential angle even in a 0 cross ‘radial’ lacing pattern. There is
no need to cross the spokes with this hub.
The side plates of the all-axle motor are counter-bored for the spokes to be laced with the elbows in, head out. This detail is important, as wheel builds with the spoke elbows out can put enough bending moment on the flange to cause the side plate to bow outwards, resulting in axle play.
Disc Caliper Clearance
Some hydraulic disc calipers are especially wide and may not fit between the
rotor and the motor’s side plate. The exact amount of clearance available
depends on the disc spacer used with the adapter set as shown in Table 4.
In cases where 18mm of caliper clearance doesn’t quite fit your calipers, we
also include a 1.5mm disc rotor spacer and a 1.5mm end cap spacer that can be
installed on the left side of the motor to increase the clearance to 19.5mm.
See Figure 2. This also increases the effective axle length from 100mm to
101.5mm, but that is usually not a problem.
Table 4: Disc Spacer and Clearance Details for Each Adapter Kit.
Adapter Kit| Axle Extender| Disc Spacer Used| Max Caliper
Width
---|---|---|---
100×9 QR| None| None / 1.5 mm| 18 mm / 19.5 mm
100×12 TA| None| None / 1.5 mm| 18 mm / 19.5 mm
100×15 TA| None| None / 1.5 mm| 18 mm / 19.5 mm
110×15 TA| None| 5 mm| 22 mm
135×9 QR| 20 mm| 13 mm| >25 mm
150×15 TA| 20 mm| 9 mm| >25 mm
Temperature Limits and Thermal Rollback
The temperature required to actually burn the enamel off the motor windings
and cause permanent damage is very high, over 180°C, but allowing the motor to
get close to this value is not recommended as the efficiency and performance
plummet well before then. It is best to keep the motor core under 110-120°C,
which provides significant headroom from actual damage and ensures that the
outside shell of the motor is not uncomfortably hot. In order to automatically
scale back power as the motor heats up, the controller system must respond to
the motor thermistor which is a 10K NTC with a 3450 Beta constant. The table
below shows the expected thermistor resistance at different temperatures.
Table 5: Thermistor Resistance Table.
Temperature | NTC Resistance | Voltage with 5K Pullup |
---|---|---|
0 C | 28.9 kOhm | 4.26 V |
25 C | 10.0 kOhm | 3.33 V |
50 C | 4.08 kOhm | 2.25V |
75 C | 1.90 kOhm | 1.37 V |
100 C | 1.13 kOhm | 0.82 V |
125 C | 0.70 kOhm | 0.49 V |
Regenerative Braking
Direct drive motors can regeneratively brake extremely well and can produce
the same braking force as acceleration force. Our integrated torque arm safely
handles the alternating back and forth torque on the axle. Regen can greatly
reduce the wear rate of your mechanical brake pads and can take over 90% of
braking duties. We highly recommend taking advantage of this feature and
adding regen control to your system. The supported regen control options for
Grin’s three kit styles are summarized in the table below.
Table 6: Regen Brake Control Modes with Grin Kits.
Regen Mode | Barebones Kit | Superharness Kit | CA3 Kit |
---|---|---|---|
Digital Brake Lever | Supported | Supported | Supported |
Digital Lever +Throttle | No | Supported | Supported |
Analog Lever | No | Supported | No* |
Bidirectional Throttle | No | Supported | No* |
Backwards Pedal | No | No | Supported |
Speed limit | No | No | Supported |
Assist Buttons | No | No | Supported |
Information on configuring the regen behavior is supplied with the motor controller and/or Cycle Analyst.
Anti-Theft Quick Release
Many anti-theft quick release skewers are available on the market requiring a
special tool to remove the hub. For those concerned about motor security, we
recommend visiting your local bike store or searching online for anti-theft
skewers compatible with your bike frame.
Single Side Mounting
The All-Axle motor is also unique in that it can be mounted to single sided
spindles commonly found in tadpole trikes, trailers, and quad bicycles. To
support this application a special single side adapter is offered that acts as
a torque arm on the disc side of the motor, so that the cable, disc rotor, and
torque arm are all on the same side.
Details on single side installation are covered in a different installation manual.
Specifications
Electrical – Pinout
Electrical – Motor
Winding | 5T (Fst) | 6T (Std) | 8T (Slw) |
---|---|---|---|
Grin SKU | M-AA2705 | M-AA2706 | M-AA2708 |
Motor Kv | 12 rpm/V | 10 rpm/V | 7.5 rpm/V |
Motor Ki (Inverse of Kv) | 0.79 Nm/A | 0.95 Nm/A | 1.28 Nm/A |
Resistance (Phase to Phase) | 268 mΩ | 145 mΩ | 100 mΩ |
Inductance (Phase to Phase) | 680 uH | 380 uH | 260 uH |
**Maximum Torque*** | 80 Nm for up to 1 minute | ||
Continuous Torque to 110C** | 30 Nm standard, 40 Nm with Statorade | ||
Motor Hystersis Drag | 0.6 – 0.7 Nm Typ. | ||
Motor Eddie Current Drag | 0.0005 Nm/rpm | ||
Rated Power (EU/UK/Au/NZ) | 250 Watts (100 rpm, no statorade) | ||
Rated Power (Canada) | 500 Watts (190 rpm , no statorade) | ||
Rated Power (USA) | 740 Watts (250 rpm, with statorade) | ||
Motor Hall Power | 5 V-12 V DC | ||
Hall Signal Level | Open Collector, pull-up required on controller | ||
Hall Timing | 120 degree, 8 degree offset | ||
Thermistor | 10K NTC, 3450 Beta, Ground Referenced |
*Maximum peak torque is typically limited by controller phase current.
**Continuous torque depends on passing air velocity and ambient temperature.
Mechanical
Spoke Flange Diameter | 214 mm |
---|---|
Spoke Flange Spacing | 53 mm |
Spoke Size Compatibility | 13g (2.0 mm) or 14g (1.8 mm) |
Spoke Holes | 32, with 21 mm spacing between paired holes |
Dishing Offset | 6 mm |
Motor Diameter | 226 mm (flange), 212 mm (rotor) |
Motor Width | 54.5mm |
Weight (motor only) | 4.05 kg |
Cable Length | 260 mm to end of connector |
Grin Technologies Ltd
Vancouver, BC, Canada
ph: 604-569-0902
email: info@ebikes.ca
web: www.ebikes.ca
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